Random Thoughts on White Men Dating Asian Women, Asian Fetish, Yellow Fever, or Whatever Else You Want To Call It
Relationships between white men and an Asian women seem to be not only quite common but also accepted far more than the other interracial relationships. I’ve noticed most Asian women with white men at my undergraduate school, graduate school, and law school as well as the legal community and in my neighborhood.
Many of my Asian women friends and colleagues have told me that they don’t have a preference as to what race they date but that it’s usually white men who ask them out. [This has been my experience as well].
On the other hand, I know quite a few white men who prefer to date only Asian women. Their reasons are always the same. They prefer the Asian looks: straight black hair, slender builds, almond-shaped eyes, and smooth golden skin. They like the culture, the art, and the traditions of Asia. And they say that they find Asian women to be more feminine. Many of my Asian friends and colleagues [jokingly] say that these men have an “Asian fetish” or “yellow fever.”
Recently, I had a couple of conversations on the topic of white men who prefer to date only Asian women. So I looked online for articles and comments concerning this topic. Many of the articles on this topic were somewhat offensive, and many of them just confirmed my belief that certainly there are many men out there with “yellow fever,” whether they want to admit it or not (see, for example: Why White Men Prefer Asian Women and White Boy Speaks on Dating Asian Women.
I then came across an article, Tiny, Flat-Chested and Hairless: A White Man Extols the Wonders of Asian Women. However, like many people who wrote letters to the editor (see Letters), I found this article also to be quite offensive because she implied that men who prefer to date Asian women must be pedophiles. One of the first things that came to my mind when I read this article was that this author (a white woman) must not like Asian women very much (or white men who date Asian women, for that matter), since she exhibited a better-than-thou attitude.
So I got curious about the relations between Asian women and Non-Asian women. And wouldn’t you know it? There was an article exactly on point: Relations Between Asian and Non-Asian Women. The article points out that some white women have negative impressions of Asian women because they see Asian women either as sexual threats (the exotic temptresses/sexual predators stereotype), or objects of pity and condescension (the passive victims of sexist cultures stereotype), or as superhuman competitors for grades and promotions (the grinds-with-no-lives stereotype).
Yes, I know I’ve digressed. But what the heck? They’re just my random thoughts on Asian women, white men, non-Asian women, yellow fever, Asian fetish, and everything in between.
PhiLAWdelphia 
Very interesting ! I have dated several Asian woman and being the
introspective “nut” that I am, I have often asked myself why. Believe it or
not I do not think it is a porn or sex thing per say although, many men do
like smaller frame women.–More maneuverable and they take up less space in bed 🙂
Without going into too much useless details I think men in general are attracted to petite woman– and because most Asian woman are petite–bingo you have your answer. My definition of petite is not
overweight and small frame –less than 110 bs. In my opinion the attraction to pettiness is either part of a sub-conscience desire for
(dominant-submissive) or the hero coming to the aid of the damsel in
distress. Both explanations could be a response to the sociological
changes that we have seen in the last 100 years. Such as woman becoming more independent, etc, threatening our historical position of ruling the world–you know the rest of the story. Again this is only my opinion.
I
also strongly differentiate Asian woman. South East Asian vs. Chinese, vs.
Philippine, etc. However with the exception of some areas within northern
China– most Asian woman fit my description of Petite.
I bet if you were to sample single woman between 30 & 40 you would find most of them in the “larger Frame” category. Which should indicate a relevance to my “petite” theory. Overweightness is at epidemic proportions here in the US. Although growing in other parts of the world, Asian woman are typically still petite.
I never heard of a man stating that he will only date Asian woman. Or for
that matter confining himself to only one group.
With me–I have an attraction to foreign women in general. — and of course any woman with a shapely butt:) Which creates a paradox because many Asian women have flat asses. My experience has proved that foreign woman are more “simple.” Less materialistic and more humble. A simple walk in the park or a tour of a museum will suffice for a great day. By the way I am attracted to my American woman also. Except the 60% that are overweight.
I am a major offender to this being a 6’4″ 26 year old white male. I could honestly say I have had at least 7 serious relationships and about 20 different asian women for sex. My buddies would joke and say I had(have) yellow fever. With my experiences, I must admit asian women are usually less controlling and better contributors. Selfishness is another attribute I haven’t seen too much of as well. I have had good relationships with spanish, white, and black women. I just find myself more attracted to asian women, but not any one. I am extremely picky. I have noticed much more commitment to the relationship when dating asian women. Most of the answers to my questions of why they said yes to me asking them out was because of generalizations. Most say asian guys are” too timid” or “not attractive”. Girlie looking or small penis were usually the common answers. I have many Chinese, Japanese, and Korean guy friends so please I’m not taking jabs at anybody. The ladies I have been with consider me a well-endowed man so maybe they were telling me what i wanted to hear. I have had friends, white and black, with asian women and have had horrible relationships. I do believe in stereotypes, but there are plenty of cases that don’t fit the norm. It just comes down to personality, intellect, physical attraction, sex, and a good sense of humor. These attributes will attract any women that you may want-and some you won’t, lol!
I dont agree that most Asian women are more petite then other women of other races, certainly not where i live and the petite Asians ive seen are no more petite then quite a lot of Caucasian women. I know more petite thinner Caucasian women then thinner Asian women. So what you are saying and generalizing Asian women to be with what ive seen and have seen in other countries compared to other women of other races, i find i have not seen that at all in my country in Australia nor other countries them being more petite and smaller framed then most Caucasian women i know. out of a few of the Asian women i know they would either be the larger ones out of our group of friends or around the same size as most of my Caucasian friends and friends of other races. So not sure where you are based and if in your country this is the way it is, however i have not seen this at all. Everyone is entitled to like who they like or what they like.
I am a slim petite Caucasian blonde hair blue eyed girl and when i go to my Asian nail parlor to get my nails done. All the Asian women there are a lot bigger then me, i have been tiny all my life, i have nothing against larger women at all or them at all and definitely not racist, however i just dont see what you are saying is true and to put any race in a category of frames and builds because i have seen a lot of the same races have completely different body types and build and that definitely goes for Asians too.. I hate when people advertise particularly on eBay saying Asian sizes on clothes, as they think they are smaller build ive read then Caucasians and other races. Which i find very untrue of what ive seen and say there sizes are smaller because they are smaller build, which i dont agree with at all.
I have never thought of Asians as smaller frame then anyone else.. or any other race smaller frame.. even Caucasians and i have seen a lot more Caucasians smaller framed and petite then any other race.. however i wouldn’t say Caucasians either are mainly on the smaller framed petite side.. because i dont feel thats not true about any race and would feel the same way if we claimed Caucasian sizes where smaller then any other race because we are smaller framed.
Anyway just had to have my say on this, as i dont agree with that that they are more petite.
I am generally attracted to caucasian men but have been attracted to men of other races too, its about the person too.. I am not racist but have never been attracted to Asian men. So thats fine, whoever you are attracted too.
I am a white woman who has dated more than one Asian man, but, interestingly, no one seems too phased about this. Well, except my girlfriends who have inquired about one particular feature of my Asian paramours. Just to give a shout out, I haven’t been disappointed. But I’m getting off track… the white woman/asian man combo doesn’t seem as popular or controversial. I guess what might be favored about Asian women (their petite size for example) is not what women are generally looking for in men – perhaps explaining why the reversal isn’t as popular?
You bring up a good point. I think that the media has something to do with the fact that white woman/Asian man combo may not be as popular as the white man/Asian woman combo. I’ve noticed a lot that Asian men generally tend to be portrayed in the media as bad evil guys or sexless nerds.
How about Soul Brother/ Asian woman combo? Too beaucoup?
Very few if any don’t see it and I live in California and japan
Maybe the real question is: Why are so many Asian women dating white men?
status
Every single white man I’ve ever dated has had less money than me and then the constant harassment from family members? Status my ass. Jealous much?
AT JESSICA – she means “STATUS” – as in a (Relationship / Reason to be Married). — a “Status” not as in making the money, or being the bread winner. – Most College aged, Attractive White Males who date “Petite Asian Women” are understanding that Asain women will probably Make More Income in the household. – This Doesn’t bother American White Male. – What is being left out, is – the ASIAN Women will Deal with brutality and Temperment and “Go to Work for her White Man, in order to Make “Botched Anglo Babies”. — This is also what is meant by “STATUS”. — The White Male, will think the Asain women will stay Petite, not get Fat or have hips, after the birth of their ‘Botched looking Chinky babies”. — okay…. thanks 🙂
Considering I found this site because I was curious to know if there was such a thing as an “Asian man fetish”, I’m inclined to agree with “On The Flip Side” and “girlygirl34”. I like Asian men, but I like all guys with dark hair and dark eyes. Judging by my dating history, it would appear that Italians are my preference.
Anyway, you just never hear about it. I wonder if this has more to do with the Freudian idea that women (in general) do not have fetishes at all.
I saw a pretty funny video about this topic once. An young Asian man is wondering why Asian girls will date white guys, but white girls don’t date Asian guys as often. He later finds that it’s because all of the white girls are dating black guys, as is the common stereotype.
Lest we overlook that the white / American men who tend to privilege Asian women has more to do w their inferiority complex n need to feel domain at in control of these supposed “more femmy”, submissive sorta. The white men who prefer Asian women usually have RAGING inferiority complexes n don’t want any challenge.
Any evidence of this?
I think there have been an overwhelming number of posts, by those who have had relationships with Asian women, that the stereotype that they are more submissive is plainly false.
Thus the notion that white males seek out Asian women out of a need to dominate a partner is nothing short of ridiculous.
do you have copyright permission for these asian-woman-dating-white-men-fetish pictures you posted.
T.P. (a.k.a. Buster), come on. As a lawyer, you should be able to predict what my answer would be.
should check this vid out too… pretty cute:
its ok to try different flavors but asian girls who just go for white guys or white guys who have the yellow fever its abnormal for the asian girls who date only white is usually because they are ugly to asian standards and the cool asian girls dont want them because they are to picky about the girls looks so the girl turns to the white guys who have a different opinion about whats beautiful in an asian girl, like most asian girls who are with white guys are the real dark slinned ones while asian guys prefer lighter skinned and slim girls
Agree, I am Asian girl to get married a white guy. Everyone in my mother land told me that i was under average girl, but when i moved here i was told that i was pretty because my skin is tanned and i have small ass. One time i asked my husband to compare me with another asian girl. He told me that we just look the same. In the same way i look at white guys. In my eyes they are just the same attraction. In conclusion, i appreciate white guys who like us and i go for them to make them happy.
go to canada, you will see lots of white/asian couples, not just white man/asian girl…… i’ved seen nerdy asian boy dating nerdy white girl, fat asian guy dating fat white girl etc……
This post is strange. I’ve haven’t seen alot of mixing but alot of diversity around towns and stuff. Most men(in this part of the world), I think, tend not to go with asian women, and this begs the question, who will? And in turn, women can only over speculate the drive in men finding a asian women. This answers why you as a woman have brought this up.
john peter – 2 words. fuck you.
“In my opinion the attraction to pettiness is either part of a sub-conscience desire for
(dominant-submissive) or the hero coming to the aid of the damsel in
distress. ”
“However with the exception of some areas within northern
China– most Asian woman fit my description of Petite.”
fuckin racist sexist son of a bitch. im sure there’s plenty of you motherfuckers running around town.
I have liked Asian women since I was very young and I am not sure why. I remember the films with Nancy Kwan for example and I immediately fell in love with her and watched all the films she was in. Unfortunately when I was growing up and going to school I had little opportunity to meet Asian women so my ideas about them were only gained from what I saw in movies and on television which reinforced the stereotype that Asian women, while beautiful, were also very feminine and generally very devoted to their usually white older male lover or boyfriend. Of course this is a very powerful attraction to any young boy with raging hormones especially when he was surrounded by American girls who were battling notions of woman’s gender roles in the 1960s and 70s due to the gender revolution. Many American women from my generation didn’t know whether they should be a mother, a wife, a partner, a boss, an equal, be devoted to a career etc. and it was very confusing for me at least. I gradually gave up dating American girls and became more and more interested in foreign girls (and eventually married a girl from the middle east). I don’t regret it for one minute. Then I moved to the East Coast later in life and finally met many Asian women at my job, in the area (New York/Northern New Jersey) and in travels to Asia for my job also. And once again my idea that Asian women were more friendly and approachable was generally proven to be true. Definitely there is an age factor at work now as younger Asian, and especially American raised Asian, women are much more like younger women everywhere these days, but somewhat older Asian women are much more family oriented, mature, polite, dedicated to their job, friends, etc.). I have many Asian friends now (men and women) and feel fortunate. I can well understand the lure of Asian women too. One thing I have to add before I finish is that there are “many” exceptions to the rule. I have met many self centered, spoiled, manipulative etc. Asian ladies/girls too so just because someone pretends to fit the stereotype guys have of them they should be “very” careful. Asian women know that many American guys have an Asian fetish or obsession and they know how to take advantage of it. I would especially caution any American male who goes to China these days. Many women in China are just waiting for the chance to latch on to some unsuspecting American male just to get to the US (a female Chinese friend told me this herself). There are many cases where the guy thinks he is getting the love of his life only to be shocked and surprised after a year or so when his “wonderful” wife turns into a mercenary (which she already was) and ends the relationship. So be warned. Yes by and large there are many things that are attractive about Asian women and Asian culture, but people are people too and it is important not to forget that and keep your eyes (ears and heart) wide open when looking for any type of relationship. Still if I did have it to do over again I would probably still marry an Asian or Middle Eastern wife. I did apologize to one American girl years back for telling her this when I was dating my future wife at the time, but she said I was smart. She said then that many American girls were really messed up because their roles were in transition and it would be hard for any American man to deal with this unless he was ready for it. Coming from a very traditional family background I definitely was not ready for the liberated wife (sorry for being a chauvinist, but I guess I am/was). So not all American girls at least put down American guys that like Asian girls. Oh yeah – Brazilian girls are way up their too since I’ve met a few although I don’t know any one who has married one so I’m not sure about the long term issues. I do know several Asian girl/American guy married couples and almost all of them have wonderful relationships and contrary to what you may think the relationships are generally mutually respectful and balanced (and very loving and devoted too). Well this is my 2 cents.
As to the comments regarding the basis for attraction between Western men and Asian women to me it is pretty simple. Based on Heredity and also based on the Media we have been programmed to think that petite, tanned, relatively hairless (except on the head of course) women are desirable. Plus the many films depicting Asian women as quiet, respectful, sensual, supportive, etc. are incredibly powerful subconscious drivers even if they are just stereotypes. We are products of our heredity and our environment. When men and women actually meet, associate, and work (and date) inter-culturally and inter-racially many stereotypes and ideas change or disappear altogether. For me I married a Middle Eastern wife and I am very happy (and lucky). I have worked with and gotten to know many Asian (oriental) ladies over more than 30 years also and they can not and should not be lumped in to some simplistic common bag. Some were sweet and traditional, some are as Western as any American, and some are/were incredibly …. well let’s just say there is bad in every bunch (to be polite). About the “hair” issue with Oriental girls – I knew one girl who “NEVER” shaved her legs and never needed too. Man I’ll bet this would make a lot of women jealous. Finally if some guys like Asian girls (and treat them with respect as they would any other lady) then what’s wrong with that? Some guys like blondes and some don’t. So what? Live and let live.
I’m a white male, 21. I’ve noticed that most posters are saying that men are all over the asian women because they have small bodies.
I can’t speak for every one, but I guess you could call my admirer of asian females. Or you could say I have a fetish, or yellow fever. Sort of annoying, to say I’d choose a woman for the sake of a fetish, as if it were pornography.
But I really cannot for the life of me tell you WHY. The first Asian women I was attracted to were the first Asian women I remember seeing, around the age of 4. Perhaps its not a perfect arguement against a previously noted “they take up less room on the bed” but nothing about my four year old body made me feel like I had better “Manueverability” with an Asian women. I simply thought that asian women were very pretty.
And an another note, a friend of mine, LOVES short women, with small bodies. When looking for a mate that is one of his requirements. They must be short, but he has no interrest in Asian women at all.
Also, about white women and asian men, no one seems to notice because theres no HYSTERIA about it, like there is Asian women, or black men, but I know countless women who are really into Asian men.
The men who say things like “I like Asian women for the shape of their eyes, the way their hair grows, the culture.”
I’m not so sure that is it, or that they even fully understand why they are drawn towards Asains. But saying “I don’t know why”… Well no one buys it.
And another note, I’ve exchanged e-mails and that sort of thing with Asian women from over seas. Japan, Philippines, Malaysia. A lot of the girls like the idea of having a child with colored eyes.
I think that it is a very interesting and amusing article. Practically all its main points are true.
its all about race nothing to do with love
Media and history dictated this paring, so in sense asian women become brainwashed into their ” ideal” man and white men are brainwashed into their own oriental fanasty
With increase in these relationships, there has been no increase in asian american civil liberities, rights and null of racism
nuff said
The truth:
Ric has pointed out exactly what this about.
white supremacy.
go ahead and roll your eyes white men.
You benefit from it everyday. the white man/lighter skin is the real fetish and everything that comes with it.
Too bad this fleeting fetish for whiteness is just that. Whiteness is recessive and eventually these parings will lead to Asian children down the line, not “white” ones.
Your just a racist.
Nowadays, people concentrate too much on immediate gratification, disregarding the consequences of their actions. “Yellow fever” ultimately has unpleasant consequences, at least for Whites. To learn more, visit http://www.Stormfront.org.
Stormfront is a neo-nazi/skinhead website by the way. They’re all white supremacists. Dumbasses. Prepare for some brainwashing if you visit that site.
I don’t care for asian women. From my experience, they’re gold-digging, materialistic, opportunistic, and cold. Also, fakers, especially in bed. It’s hard to tell what they’re actually thinking – unless you happen to hear them “spilling it out” to their friends, as I did on two separate occasions.
Just my experience.
fuck you fucking racist you cant say all asians do like that, dont talk about asians fucking motherfucker
he is not a racist. he got burnt and he is sharing his experience. he bought into a sterotype that is not real. we need to stop buying into that sterotype. my asian friends are hardly what has been described on this board. they are aggressive and no different than american women.
my asian girlfriends have also been forthright about how asian women date white men for status. then they rip apart the men…which i don’t understand.
and for thos bashing american women…”60% are overweight”????i grow up and look around. there are plenty of american women in their 30’s & 40’s in better shape than 20 year olds. i happen to be one of them and i have plenty of friends in great shape. where do you live? this nonsense is nothing more than ignorant crap some men have in their heads.
forget what you THINK you know, the sweeping screwed up generalizations, forget your baggage and open your eyes, heart and mind. you will find wonderfully generous, compassionate, loving women, american and otherwise.
Grace, you sound like you’re jealous and one of those white women that the author of the post is talking about. Telling people to get a nice American girl? Well guess, what? I’m American AND I’m Asian. I fit no stereotype. You’re telling the previous poster that they shouldn’t believe in stereotypes and yet you believe a DIFFERENT stereotype, the one of Asian women being gold digger psychos. I’ve dated 2 white men in my life and both of them I supported financially. Where do I fit in your stereotypes?
You really need to look at yourself and question exactly why you hate Asian women. It’s most likely because you hate yourself and are just jealous that you can’t have what others can get.
Jessica, you’re the dumb ass. I’ve never known anyone to get defensive so quickly from reading a message. Grace is not jealous, she’s realistic. When I asked a group of white guys about this, they hardly paid attention to the question. They just looked at me like I was crazy and said that white women would always be at the top of their lists.
And that’s not “racist”, that’s nature. Even babies instinctively want to play with other babies of the same race.
And it’s also ridiculous, and sort of sad, that Asian women like the idea of having “colored eyed” children. That’s absolutely impossible for them. Do you know how dominant Asian genes are, vs. how recessive white genes are? I’ve seen a lot of half white, half Asian children. None are attractive, and non have any eye color other than brown. And non look the least bit white either. Asian + White = Asian.
I do not hate Asian women, either. I’m being realistic. As realistic as a person raised by biologists can possibly be.
You don t know how to control your beotch cause your a weak white guy, and probably living check to check. Ha Ha
-_-;;
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It’s amazing to me how many men I’m friends with who are in relationships with Asian girls. I’ll admit that I do find some Asian women to be very gorgeous, but what do you think the appeal is really about? Why do some white guys only date Asian girls…can somebody explain the attraction to me?
asian women think more like men do. more logically
they dont roll their eyes
when you ask them out they say “yes” ie not much game playing
put out in bed
are feminine and sophisticated
generally quite smart
often athletic at least thin & fit
make great mothers
may god forever bless white man + asian woman relationships
You clearly do not know as many Asian women as I do. Everything you said here is complete BS. My most recent interesting wm/aw couple experience ended like this: she found out that he wasn’t really rich and ran for the hills.
PS. Great mothers? Have you read the best selling among Asians book titled “Tiger Mother”? I don’t know about you, but I disagree with drowning as a punishment, and social isolation. Among others.
Amazing post about femdom , I ask for more
i’m offended. Why do ppl talk so much shit about asians? fuck you you know if others would go around and say things like “all black ppl or all white ppl do this and that” ppl would fucking attack me, why is it so okey for other to talk about asians ?
the reason why people don’t get offended when asians are insulted is because asians aren’t notorious for being hyper-sensitive to the point of maybe even getting into fights over racism. people will joke about all kinds of terrible things if they figure they can get away with it (re: jokes about michael jackson raping children.)
as far as why a lot of white guys (and other races of men,) go for asian women, one of the ideas is that asian women have smaller vaginas than other races of women. that might sound like pretty shallow reasoning, but some folks are just that bad.
i’ve never been particularly attracted to asian women, though i haven’t found them all to be ugly. there’s beautiful women of various races.
i don’t think guys who are attracted to asian women are pedophiles. some guys just like smaller women…i guess it makes them feel more powerful. a buddy of mine tops out at five eleven, six foot tall and is engaged to a caucasian woman who is less than five foot tall and probably not even one hundred pounds. his taste in the robustness and stature of women flies in the face of what i’ve found attractive in women, but i doubt i’m going to see him trying to get into the priesthood anytime soon.
Christ dude! Chillax… The bottom line in sealing the deal with women is manners and willingness to spend money. l know women from China who refuse to date white guys because after a couple of dates if the guy doesn ‘t get laid he wants his money back! In other words the Chinese girl has more money the the white guy or her Chinese men dates are willingly to spend more on her. All women want to be wined and dined and it takes manners and money, the later most of my white friends Do Not have!
asians are guilty of doing the same! EVERY group is guilty of this behaviour. it is NEVER acceptable when ANYONE does it…unfortunately it happens.
we all need to be accountable and stop with knee jerk reactions of pointing fingers of racism, practice patience and understanding, and teach others by example. don’t feed the monster with tit for tat bs.
Lots of Asian hate, huh, Grace? From all your posts I’ve garned that you think Asian women date for status, they’re gold diggers, American WHITE women are the pinnacle and ultimate of compassion and Asians are racists.
Wow… did an Asian girl steal your man?
Wow…. What an interesting topic. I only found this page because I typed in “Asian” in google images.
I am an asian woman and my friends and I talk about this all the time. I’ve heard responses from Asian girls and White men. Honestly, I like White men because they have features that most Asian men do not have. White men, compared to asian men, have stronger jaw lines. Women find this extremely attractive. We do wish that our babies have colored eyes, beautiful fair skin, and so on. Happa (“half and half”) babies are beautiful. We love that most white men are also tall. It gives us a sense of protection.
I hope I don’t offend anyone, but out of all the other races in the U.S. (black, asian, latina, etc.) Asian women are more likely to share the same values with White men. I guess I’m trying to say that Asian women are more likely to be “white-washed,” compared to women in other cultures. Dont’ deny it…
Also, when you look at cultures in Asia, some people long to have the big round eyes, and light skin. It’s actually a normal part of Korea’s culture to get eyelid surgery.
Asian people admire White people features, and visa versa.
Another type of feedback I got from white men was that some white women are just too aggressive for them. They appreciate the fact that asian women are typically more humble.
As for the guy who says that asian women go for the guy with the money… This may be true only in some cases but NOT ALL…and you can’t just say it’s asian women because white women do it, black women do it, women in various cultures do it. Oh and just in case you don’t know… asian women aren’t the only ones who fake it in bed. pshh. Come on, now!
Overall, every white male goes for the asian chick for his own separate reason. There’s no one right way to answer “why white guys like asian girls,” but I can tell you that asian girls date people of all races. I have asian girl friends who date hispanics, whites, asian, blacks, greens, blues, blah blah blah.
Yes you have absolutely right! …that’s why i love so much asian women…and i hope some day meet some one for marriage……..i love ya!..and by the way, i’m a white/tall guy who love asian women NOT white agressive women
Ned, White women are not all aggressive just as there are plenty of aggressive asian women.
These skewed perceptions are very disturbing and need to stop being perpetuated.
This conversation is tiresome. The fact is this thread has not enlightened anyone. It just serves are reinforcement of the narrow minded bias views already held by a few.
Educated yourself. Seriously.
Ned, White women are not all aggressive just as there are plenty of aggressive asian women.
These skewed perceptions are very disturbing and need to stop being perpetuated.
This conversation is tiresome. The fact is this thread has not enlightened anyone. It just serves are reinforcement of the narrow minded bias views already held by a few.
Educate yourself. Seriously.
I am an Asian woman married to an Asian man. Your comments are so terribly unfortunate and misguided. Thankfully, not all Asian woman are infected by the tragic self-hatred and racism from which you suffer. “Asian people admire White people features, an vice versa.” Really? Then why is it that Asians are having plastic surgery to look more white, while whites are not having plastic surgery to look more Asian? Why are Asian women bleaching their hair blonde, while white women are not dying their hair black? Recently it was reported that an Asian mom took her daughter to a plastic surgeon for eyelid surgery – not so unusual until you learn the daughter was 9 months old! She wanted her daughter to have a good life from the beginning! Are those the “values” to which you refer? My younger brother, who has two masters degrees, his own business, competes in triathlons is tall – 5’11” cannot find a suitable Asian woman to date and marry. Many flatly state that they only date white men. He asked one woman why, her response was, and I quote, “I don’t want no dirty stinking yellow baby with chinky eyes.” A touch of self-hatred, maybe? Did you know that white men are more likely to commit domestic abuse and/violence against Asian women than against white women? Feel free to have a relationship with whomever you choose, but please stop spreading your rancid, self-hating, twisted thinking and in particular stay away from young impressionable Asian women.
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@ ohhhboyyy, what a thoughtful comment on this very interesting topic/post.
I remember thinking that asian girls were very pretty ever since 2nd grade. There was 2 of them in my class and they were probably the cutest girls in the class, and on top of that I remember them being very nice. And ever since then, I have not had many differing experiences. If you take the average asian woman, she will look better in all stages of life than other races. However, I do think that best looking women overall are probably white brunettes. Still this really has not that much to do with the attraction.
The real reason is the combination of their personality, values, respect, and the beauty. I have always liked girls that are positive, simple, goofy, and accepting. Also, I like ones that value conservative ways of thinking, sexually, family-wise, etc. I also admire how asian women do not act like they have something to prove. They seem comfortable with the fact that they are women, and do not need to act like bitches. They also are very assertive about things that they are passionate about. About the ONLY thing I don’t like about them is that many of the asian girls I have been interested in are athiest. That wouldn’t bother many people, but being raised Catholic makes it a bit of a drawback. It wouldn’t stop me from dating/marrying an asian (I think), but it is a little bothersome.
OMG, “White Guy”, you are my dream guy. I share your exact thoughts; However, Asian women are not athiest, Love! Probably just your limited experience. Many Asian women are Christians, particuarly Catholics, and would love to meet a guy like you. Go to a Catholic church and ask for the Asian service, or Vietnamese service; There are many nice Asian girls longing for a nice guy, let alone a Caucasion guy. Try California; There are lots of them! God bless.
I’m from California and a lot of Asians are actually Christian Protestant. Koreans tend to be protestant… many Chinese people are too… or they’re Buddhists. Few Chinese people are Catholics… it’s mostly the Filipinos who are because of their Spanish influence. I’m not so sure about Vietnamese though. Everyone’s different. I myself am not religious but I’m spiritual 🙂
I also like Asian girls, but if I was single I would have to meet Protestant woman. While I love Thai woman, I would not date a Buddhist. Since I would need a Christian, perferably Protestant, the Philippines would be my top choice, South Korea 2nd. While looks is a part of it, I just like Asian women’s upbeat nature. I like that they are loyal and family oriented. I like that they are comforable being feminine and feel no need to compete with the man. I like their work ethic.
What a fucked up world !!!!!!!
Why you cant leave people in peace you fuckin social terrorists !!!!
If i want to fuck an animal this is non of your fuckin business.
Fuck you very much
Hmmm…some of the comments from asian women here are quite disturbing. I think everyone seems to have a certain preference, and it’s more power to you if you like a certain race over another, however, generalizing an entire race because of their ethnic features seems very wrong and racist. I cannot believe some asian women are this racist!
What do you call an Asia male who doesn’t date Asian girls like me??
==> An Asian International Playboy
May be you are so urgly that even a 5’4″ asian guy don’t want to look at you.
Asian girls are sweet, friendly, and they have respect to people that’s why more white guy likes Asian woman..
What about asian guys ? Aren’t they sweet, friendly and respect to people ? They don’t get many white woman….
its all about race nothing to do with love
Media and history dictated this paring, so in sense asian women become brainwashed into their ” ideal” man and white men are brainwashed into their own oriental fanasty
With increase in these relationships, there has been no increase in asian american civil liberities, rights and null of racism
thanks
killing games
You are fuked in the head. Asian are corrupted can’t you see. Asian would do anything to get ahead, to be rich, to be pretty, to have power. They don’t want to marry any other race but white to have beautiful babies (so they think). Asian women are in hot demand as the white guys don’t mind have them around. Why not, Asian women are willing to obey and serve and let the man incharge. But the asian guys are not as popular because of their physical size. Asian guys have try I am sure, to be nice and gentle, easy going, something even use money. That’s not what white women want.
ollright may be i am/or not a brainwashed but at first i’v choosed a white girl and…surprise! she doesn’n like me ,why? becase i am a white male that’s why i pick out now an asian doll
Wow this thread is interesting, granted I’m in a relationship with a white guy. I’m an American in every which way possible, I love my country almost to the brink of nationalism(just kidding), I’m very patriotic.. Btw I have a Cambodian ethnicity. I thought I’d mention that this thread is absolutely informative, stereo-typical, racist, and slightly amusing but it is interesting to read people’s view points ay?
Before I address a few points that I found interesting to say the least, I need to clarify the term ‘Asian’. I will use this term to reference American Asian women got it?
“Asian women are Athiest”: I’m a Christian- Jesus Christ is my savior. Typically in America Asians are either Buddhist or Christian mainly Catholic. My church is actually missioning out in Cambodia to spread the word of the bible. Kudos.
Asian women being “white-washed”: What’s that mean? Are Asian women supposed to act “black-washed”? I think the appropriate term is “Amercanized” meaning those of Asian heritage are lacking or not acting of traditional Eastern values. I’m hardly passive. I’m quite assertive, occasionally harsh, and sure I clean up the house but is ready to go hit up the bars right after with my guy friends(assuming these traits and characteristics aren’t traditionally of Asian tastes.. Yawn).
White men like Asian women because they’re petite: Hmmm i’m 5’4 142 lbs, nice booty with 2 ladies that are C on the verge of D cups(debating enhancement). That’s hardly petite.
My boyfriend doesn’t like me because I’m a petite Asian, actually he’s always dated white women(I’m his first Asian). He likes me because I’m smart, understanding, funny, a tomboy with 6 inch stilettos(die hard NFL fan), and blessed with a sparkling personality. Also I’m great in bed(not because I’m Asian but because I’m kinky). Every one has their own personal preferences.
I”ve dated Latinos, a couple of Asians, heck my ex-fiancée was black but ulimately white guys. They’re just so damn attractive. The things I would do if I could get a hold of Brad Pitt, James Marsden, or lol Anderson Cooper.. But it is all about preference. Looks get you through the door, but it’s substance that keeps you inside.
This whole thread entails stereotypes, people are going to agree and others won’t. I can’t speak for everyone else but I’m almost positive that everyone is stereotypical and has racist thoughts towards every ethnicity. I guess I’m an exception to the Asian stereotype, I mean come on I’m awful in Math! Sue me for my thoughts. No don’t, I’m just kidding. Thanks for this opportunity to let me stand on this soap box.
i like asian women just because are diferent of white ‘cows’…Asian girls are petite ,proportional body ,verey cute ,sweet and uderstanding ,trust comfident and the list may go one …and i repeat is not my fetish is just what i want ,to have an asian wife
Quite frankly, I have never found that to be the case.
some men prefer blondes. some asian. although the men’s comment on this board are disturbing.
my asian friends are very forthright about how many asian women date white man for status. this is very common. they’ve also talked about how ugly the white men are among other things. guess they forgot i was sitting there. i found it very off putting.
men have many ideas, stereotypical or not, about women in general that are simply not true. they choose to believe them. we see what we want to see.
what i don’t like about this post is the bashing of american women. the comments are ignorant and are coming from a place, i suspect, of some serious baggage. you can’t paint everyone with the same brush. in every group, american, asian, there are lovely people and shitty people. seriously, stop the nonsense.
~ I totally agree with you.
i just wanna say that not all asian girls have a preference of white men.
also i have seen many asian men that are tall,”chiseled” and manly.
Not all asian guys are nerdy or feminine.
However those that are sort of feminine some of them do look quite attractive however not all of them. Just saying…
It is probably that some asian women have not came across them yet. Perhaps that is why you prefer white men.
Many asians i know like dating asian girls/guys.
Therefore please get rid of the misconception that the majority of Asian women like white men. Perhaps it’s because i live in a more diverse state. I don’t know… But everyone has there own preferences.
just b/c a white guy goes out with an asian girl it does not mean he has an asian fetish same thing goes for any particular race whether it is dating an asian women or not IT IS NOT A FETISH…
however in this world some of these fetishes do exist.
Personally I think there are good looking people all over the world.
I’ve seen good looking white guys/black/hispanic/middle eastern/Asian you name it. I have also seen plenty of ugly white/black/hispanic/middle eastern/ asian guys as well.
Not one specific race should be categorized as the “best looking” race.
Also it is true that one’s personality does not lie within a person’s ethnicity. There are nice and mean people of all races.
I am dead tired of all these asian girls talking about there preference in white men and what not. I’m not gonna lie I think white men are good looking but the same with hispanic guys and other races as well.
But you know what really pisses me off is this stereotype that asians are “exotic”.
First of all i have seen plenty of asians with big round eyes and they are mot mixed. My eyes are not super big but they are not super small either. They are normal sized with DOUBLE EYELIDS, and eyes that are slightly chinky but only slightly. My eyes are not “slanty” like Lucy Liu (a chinese american? actress) she’s in movies like charlies angels etc.
AND as an Asian girl I am proud to say I prefer Asian guys.
Also (sorry for making this too long)
—I was born and raised in America—
how’s that for an Asian American girl.
Please I advise these people to have a broader mindset.
stop being provincial thinking that there is a single story about a particular race.
I highly doubt you have any friends Grace, much less Asian friends. Do you realize that your Asian ‘friends’ are just as American as you? Do they know what a racist idiot you are? Frankly, I’ve never had a conversation with any of my girlfriends who talked about status as being an important factor. We usually talk about if they’re nice, funny, considerate, good looking and if they are good in bed. You come from a shallow, materialistic world Grace. I sincerely pity the man that marries a hateful wench like yourself.
By the way, after he divorces your nasty racist ass, I hope he marries an Asian lady. 🙂
Thank you! Well said, amen
It all depends on your liking i think. I think like all people there is good and bad females. Asian females arent all good. That goes against the balance of nature.
I find some of these posts insulting, and I’m not a bit Asian.
Why do people read soo much into this? Asian women are beautiful, that’s why guys like them. Black women area also beautiful.
Any guy that likes an Asian woman based on some foolish stereotype is losing. And also, no one should be surprised that some Asian girls like White guys. Some of the culture in Asian countries is very restricting for Asian women, and as a result some Asian women may want to get out of that situation. And also people have to remember, that of course an Asian woman that comes from a country that has no people with blue eyes or blond hair, may actually be attracted to a guy with blue eyes and blond hair. Isn’t that normal?
Americans should give up generalising for once, its just driving your country further backward then it already is. The notion that Asian-American women are naturally seeking a White Man for his Aryan qualities is entirely vacuous, and intellectually insulting. Usual social characteristics apply, if an Asian woman is really beautiful – she is going to be really hard to talk to, if an Asian woman is really ugly – she is going to be really easy to talk to. Why are Americans so obsessed with demonising people? Is it something unique about your culture?
Battle, I would just like to point out that you come across as very hypocritical with Your generalization of Americans. We are very diverse and it’s really unfair to categorize all of us as one way or another. It is my pet peeve when other countries like to point fingers at the Americans, but are never will to ever admit any fault with their own country, which believe me I’m sure that I could find plenty of unsavory things that your country has done in the past and present. I mean come now most of the Imperial age was led by Western Europe (and yes there is still remnants of this in today’s society). Not mention I’m pretty sure the Chinese have a few things to say about Japanese especially during WWII. I wouldn’t compare all these men on this particular thread (who knowingly or unknowing are racist misogynists) to the rest of the males in the US. I also would like to add that I can’t think of any educated person of our generation that I’ve come into contact with who actually believes there is anything wrong with interracial couples, nor do they believe rubbish like one race steals from another. And the white women who complain about it only do so because they are unable to get decent man of any race to like them. Furthermore, most of the white men I’ve ever talked to have never said anything about being or not being attracted to Asians at all. As for the select Asian American women who like white men, in my experience a lot of it has to do with the facts that 1) our media tends to still favor white men and 2) because they live in a region with a lot of white men. If you are continuously exposed to what society says is good, it’s unsurprising you’ll think it’s good too (although once again this is not always the case). And after 3 months of living in China I’ve come across all different kinds of people some that fit the various stereotypes and others who don’t fit at all. For the ones who are (or assumed to be) the gold digging stereotype and take advantage of white men, I say more power to them. They do what they have to and I think many of the men(not all) who go to places like China just to pray upon these women’s situations frankly deserve being drained of their cash. (I also say to the Asian men who think all white women are whores also deserved to be played as well). In summary, you’re a hypocritical bigot, the vast majority of men on this thread are douche bags and this thread is yet another example of how women torn down by men because they do or don’t fit into a certain ideological box. I will take my mixed boyfriend (dad=chinese, mom=white), my college education, my independence, and my pride, over any insecure white asshole on this forum any day (which I’m sure the vast majority of women would agree with me on).
Quick editing:it is my pet peeve when people in other countries like to point fingers at the Americans, but are never willing to ever admit any fault with their own country
And what is so bad if we white males americans/european like asian women??!..personally i’m not conceive to marry with a white woman
If you like Asian women because they are beautiful then that’s the same as liking Black women because they are beautiful. I see nothing wrong in that.
I just cannot stand that notion that some ‘White men’ are looking for an Asian woman, because Asian women are supposed to be ‘submissive’ or are supposed to resemble the racist stereotypes in Hollywood films. I cannot for the life of me imagine how some ‘White men’ are seeking out Asian women because they think they are easy. Are you aware of the disastrous effect that has on Asian women?
That is soo American. I can tell you that thinking like that, reallly demonstrates the difference that exists between the rational and reasonable thinking World, and that stupid union of 50 states south of Canada.
by the way ! ,i don’t like black women ,I LIKE ASIAN women and i think that’s not the same and i’m not american i am european..whatever good luck for every white man in relation wiht asian doll
I’m an Asian American man here. I find a lot of the comments ignorant and offensive. For one, if anyone spent time to learn East Asian diets they will learn that there is no calcium within the diet, of course they are shorter.
Full blooded Asians born and raised in the United States with adequate nutrition are of the same height as the average Americans, that’s usually 3rd generation Asians as by that generation they would have had changed their diets to one with enough calcium(milk).
I’m more muscular than White guys who work out even though I haven’t worked out in 5 years, more chiseled jaws(then again my ethnicity has very square jaws and I can pretty much tell if another person is from Central or South Vietnam simply from their chiseled jaws)
The double eyelid thing is mostly the Koreans(South Koreans tend to be tall since they have more calcium in their diets now since the 1960s I believe, the North Koreans are of the same ethnic background but are still short since they lack the nutrition.)
The ignorance spread here is astounding. Spend time to actually see the truth instead of making hasty generalizations and other philosophical mistakes.
It seems that the American public have been hit with the hammer of opinionated ignorance. Even the politicians have been struck by it, ‘Sarah Palin’ is a good example of a bigoted asshat.
It also depends on where the “Asian” is from, in the city I guess they are different, however I’m from the countryside of Central Vietnam, we tend to be more open about our opinions and even our women will beat the shit out of people who yap too damn much. I feel sorry for people whom believe stereotypes about Asians considering that East Asia alone stretches from the edge of east India west towards the Philipines and northward up to much of south eastern Russia.
I conclude with a quote from the T.V. show “Angels in America,” “The White Cracker who wrote the National Anthem knew what he was doing. He set the word ‘Free’ to a note so high nobody could reach it.”
Now, all those who’ve actually spent time to read this should sit down and reflect upon the truth values such as, “Are my thoughts scientifically true? The difference in height has more to do with nutrition (Americans born of the great depression averaged 5’4-5’6 for men) (The types of food eaten along with climate can change a person’s facial structure and physique) (Today in much of Asian media, they purposefully choose more effeminate men, so the depictions are not accurate amongst real Asian men, proof can be seen from watching old 70s Chinese movies vs today’s Chinese movies where the men are 2-3 shades lighter ‘their genetics did not change that much in a few generations’)
In short, use your damn brains for critical thinking and ask the question why are the things the way they are, not things are the way they are and I’ll make up a reason for it.
Bay the way about jews! Don’t make comfusion betwen white people an jews ! is a BIG diference ; most of white people are workers and simple humans but jews people manage and drive this world inclusiv on whites who will becoming a minority event an extinct in few yars
I found this page while looking for something else, but, after reading it over, I became profoundly depressed. On one hand, I read comments from those who are of some European background who are describing their Asian girl friends almost like items in a coin or stamp collection, with certain salient points isolated and categorized. On the other, I’m reading overly defensive, ranting comments mostly from Asian males who are convinced that any WM/AF relationship is inherently skewed or suspect. A few Asian females join in to make vaguely racist comments. Frankly, from my perspective, all of you are wrong.
My wife is Filipina and my own family background’s British, and we’ve been happily married for over a decade. My wife’s very well educated (an M.D.) and I have three graduate degrees of my own (M.A., J.D., and soon an M.B.A.). We met and married in this country, and she was already a citizen. I think if I’d just been out “shopping” for an Asian wife, I’d have been in trouble from day one. I think we all have our preferences as to what we find attractive: mine is for dark brunettes in general, but, by no mean a single ethnicity. Out of the 15 or so women I’d dated seriously before I met my wife, all were brunettes, but only one other was Asian. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with preferring certain physical characteristics, but, if you associate those with certain cultural stereotypes, you’re not being fair to your partner. In the long run, you’ll also likely be bitterly disappointed.
Finally, I am sick of militant Asians who want to assume the worst about WM/AF couples. I’m not going to deny that racism is still an issue in this country, but, guess what, it also is in much of Asia also. I know, I’ve stayed in more than one country there. You know nothing about an individual couple, why they’re together or what their innermost thoughts are. If you’re threatened somehow by marriage out of your own race, then you should keep it to yourself and not play amateur sociologist. You just come across as insecure at best, and chauvinistic or racist yourself at worst. You’re no different than some fat KKK member foaming at the mouth about “keeping with yer own kind.”
Thanks, I’ll now get off my soapbox.
you know what !,i think the most racist of all are women in special white wome(cows),because when a white male choose an asian doll for marriage white bitch jump in air like bombs thought that an offnce for them self.
But in same time all white wome are free to meet with anyboby from any race ;black,arabs,asian …etc
Personal i like very much thailandese women,and i hope some day to find my bride an asian girl
I’m a white man married to an Asian woman. Personally I am fed up with white women for a few major reasons all which revolve around feminism. Asian women enjoy BEING women. White women are too busy trying to duel men and push them down. They laugh at us on TV as men are now portrayed very negatively in western nations. They have laws created that benefit them. Ex: (VAWA 1994 ) They have educational programs that benefit them and so forth. Asian women dress like women. White women dress like men. With odd exception, Asian women respect their husbands and are devoted to their marriages. My wife is my equal and my job everyday is to make her world a happy place and to create a safe and secure home for us. Anything less from me is unacceptable. I value her opinion – she values mine and we compromise on all matters. After dating various self centered feminististic white bitches ……..what a refreshing change. I also know a lot of Asian men and most of them are also very nice people. If white women want to lessen the mass exodus of white men wanting to date them I might suggest something. Try equality.
Again, all BS, none of what you say is true. I am a white woman, and not into feminism. I don’t know any who are. Stop looking for excuses for your little porn game.
“Again, all BS, none of what you say is true”
Wrong. Sadly, much of what he says is spot-on.
“I am a white woman, and not into feminism. I don’t know any who are.”
And OBVIOUSLY your experience is the only one that matters. Because you don’t know any feminists, there must not be any, case closed! Frankly, YOU are the kind of classic white/Caucasian woman that we’re all ignoring or turning away from.
“Stop looking for excuses for your little porn game”
But my lovely Asian wife and I *like* our little porn games, so fuck off. 🙂
Seriously, it’s uptight, obnoxious losers like you that give Caucasian women a bad name. Everything devolves into “porn” or abuse in your weird little world, doesn’t it? All men are just evil bastards waiting to take advantage of you or oppress you or whatever. Wake up, you’re so steeped in your twisted world view that you will never be able to have a normal, happy life. It’s just not possible for you.
Enjoy growing old alone with no one to love you. But hey- you’ll still have your cats, right?
While I find many posts on this thread to be incredibly ignorant and particularly offensive, I find yours to be the worst – absolutely horrendous, Juasinius. Women come in all different sizes and shapes, their taste in clothing and their personalities not only differs from culture to culture, but also from woman to woman within the same culture. My guess is your opinion is Bias and based on very few females you have encountered in your lifetime. I’d also like to clarify to anyone who may not know what Feminism actually means. The term refers to believing in equality between men and women, anyone who believes in equality, therefore, by definition is a feminist, period. It does not mean, in contrary to general oblivious consensus that feminist women want to be superior to men. Get your fact straight before you comment on a topic you’re unfamiliar with.
Justinius – my apologies for misspelling your name.
A white man dating a non-white woman who says what Justinius says would have his next date with Rosie Palms
You are spot on. I’m also a white guy married to an Asian woman, and I couldn’t be happier. White/American women are dreadful, petty, self-centered, and very, very difficult to have any kind of meaningful relationship with. I gave up on them years ago and never looked back.
So your wife ought to divorce you, since you, being white, are “dreadful, petty, self-centered, and very, very difficult to have any kind of meaningful relationship with”.
“So your wife ought to divorce you, since you, being white, are “dreadful, petty, self-centered, and very, very difficult to have any kind of meaningful relationship with”.
Except I’m not a woman. Perhaps you need to take some reading comprehension courses, because what I said was, “White/American women are dreadful, petty, self-centered…” etc etc. See the key word “women”?
But in any case, my wife is very happy in our marriage, as am I. Try not to let your jealousy shine through quite so much next time, okay? 🙂
Most white men who date non-white women do not selectively bash or denigrate white women in general- and most of the small minority who do cease to date whichever non-white woman they happened to be with.
“Most white men who date non-white women do not selectively bash or denigrate white women in general”
What’s your point?
“and most of the small minority who do cease to date whichever non-white woman they happened to be with”
Please try to pay attention. I’m not “dating” a non-white woman, I’m married to one, going on 7 years now. 🙂
FYI, I dated lots of white women over the years. Dozens and dozens and dozens. Some were nice, but most of them were not. Most of them were self-centered, neurotic, and difficult to have a meaningful relationship with.
This thread just makes me hate Americans. What is with the obsession with racial vilification and stereotypes? Why are you so obsessed with demonsing other cultural groups?
Let me tell you something, and this is for the white male losers that keep on posting ‘asian doll’ trash. I am white, I am currently dating a Korean girl. Do I like her? Yea I do. Is she cool? Yea I could say she’s cool. Do I think she is submissive? Stupid question. I have no idea why on earth so many people are committed to insulting Asian women. The stereotypes of Asian women are based on Hollywood, not on research or reality. Why is it so hard to understand that. I like my girlfriend, but I didn’t ‘select’ her because she is submissive or whatever other insult you like to use. I find Asian women to be just like other women.
My girlfriend can be just as difficult and complicated as any other white or black girl I’ve dated. The reason why I am dating her is because I knew her for almost 2 years and started liking her, and the opportunity came up for me to ask her out and it was a success luckily. I didn’t ‘select’ her because I thought ‘oh yea, Hollywood said that all Asian women read Mein Kampf and agree with Hitler’s thesis about the superiority of White people, and therefore will ONLY look for white men’. That’s insulting even to me, and I’m not even Asian.
What is depressing is when she tells me ‘I think all white guys think Asian girls are easy’ – and thats based on her experiences of the way white guys speak to her, or when she’s had old men try and give her their number while she’s working at her job. It’s soo depressing, and I would attribute it to Hollywood and the rubbish they continue to produce.
I like my girlfriend, but if we break up – it doesn’t mean I’m going to ‘select’ another Asian girl. All I know is, is that I will go looking for a hot girl – whether that is black, white, green whatever. I think if your going to have this hurtful mentality about Asian women, you will LOSE. If I treated my girlfriend like she was submissive I know she would dump me. If I treated her like a ‘sex object’ she would leave me. With dating her, I’ve noticed some cultural differences – mostly relating to the fact that she is really really good at cooking and that as a Korean she is quite proud in herself. What I’m trying to say is live in the real world not in a fantasy. Stereotypes are pathetic, and even if you are deep spiritual and religious believer in them – there are consequences.
And I’d just like to say I would never ever date an Asian girl that says something like ‘Asian guys are ugly’. I’ve seen some (ONLY some) of videos on youtube that have had girls say this, and I think its so regretful. For me it would be really sad to have a girl almost openly say that she is with you not because of your personality or your jokes, but because of your ethnicity. That sucks.
I really want to see you date a green girl. A very hot green girl. Non-submissive too. And hell, the green people aren’t even in any Hollywood movies. There you go, nothing to rant about xD Go find your green babe, “mate”.
this is all ridicolous,period from here,i am white and i love asian gals,and blacks,though i date an asian now,grace,u got problem with that?jessica u prove good point.gz.
That’s it guys!, let’s go to imvade Asia on the seeking of brides…hahaha!..by the way, i looooooove Lucy Liu.
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Hi, I’m an asian dude and I’ve never been able to to get hooked up with any chick regardless of her race that I’ve liked. I’ve tried but many American women (even asian women) only care to date white, black, and latin/hispanic men. There have been times I found some women attracted to me, but I found out they were either very mean, or already had boyfriends or grossly overweight. The bottom line is this, why create a random blog when we all know there are inequalities with interracial dating especially at a time when we are facing more and more racism and discrimination towards minorities (no thanks to the weak economy)? Does your random thought about your blog make you feel good knowing other interracial relationships are in the small minority and that there is a perception these minority interracial groups can’t be allowed in the social scenes because it’s not usual? Does American/western societies want to keep it that way because out of racism or fear? Does anyone even care?
Like I wrote earlier, it says something about American society not about race in general. I live in Australia and I always notice how Americans stereotype people, regardless of race. American thinking: If you wear nice clothes your cool, if your tall your cool, if you have glasses your expected to use the computer a lot, if your good-looking then the girls will like you, if your not good-looking then you have to be a jerk to get girls.. It goes on and on. I’m not a big fan of Australian girls, but I know they don’t accept people on face value like Americans girls would.
The whole Asian girl-white guy thing is just a fantasy of most insecure white American men, I wouldn’t look too much into it. I’ve known plenty of Asian guys that are good with women, and I mean with any women, far better then me – and people tell me I’m a good-looking white guy.
If I want an Asian girl I won’t do the American thing and think ‘well because those Asian girls read Mein Kampf they’ll definitely want my superior Aryan genes’. It’s up to me to get an Asian girl and to show I’m a good person, its not about pathetic stereotypes that you see in old Hollywood films.
In conclusion all I can say is, like every other civilised person on earth I look down on America’s backward society and culture.
If a guy likes silky straight black hair and the shape of an Asian woman’s face, also many of them have a petite, slender build, if that’s your type physically, then that’s your type. No one will accuse a white guy of having a “Scandinavian” fixation or fetish, if he likes tall blondes, with huge boobs, blue eyes and long legs. I’ve seen many white women have a negative attitude towards Asian women because they are jealous, these women are typically blobs of fat and not very attractive, but they like to blame their lack of male companionship on Asian women stealing “their” men, as if white women own or have first dibs on all the white males and Asian women should only be able to select from the leftovers.
I married an Asian woman and live in NY. When we first got married all the “strange looks” I got came from white women. I think it’s slowed down a bit. Maybe I just don’t notice as much anymore because I don’t care what other idiots think.
No, because being attracted to your own race has been proven scientifically natural. That’s why it would not be weird. Being attracted to another race, initially, comes from stereotype. Plus, a major downside to having an Asian wife is that you can never travel with her to Asia. You will lose her in a second.
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I’ve only browsed through some of the comments but as this is a topic that affects me and that I feel awkward about. I’ll try to relate my own thoughts on this subject. Being a white male in his early forties I’ve always felt heavily attracted towards Asian women as far as I can remember. One of my first memories is flicking through some national geographic type magazine which featured pictures of Asian people and being mesmerised by the looks of both sexes. Being a four year-old boy growing up in Dutch council estate I could not believe women could look like that: sleek black hair, olive-colored ‘yellow’ -skin, those almond-shaped dark eyes, the high cheekbones-you get the idea.
It’s only fair to say that my sexual preference was being shaped there and then. Although I have dated and had relationships with women of any color, race or bodyshape, I still find myself falling for Asian women for the same reasons I fell for them in the first place.
Now I’d like to put a few matters straight.
1) There are literally billions of Asian women out there. Each one of them has her own looks, ethnic background and so on-think of it: Indonesians, Thai, Japanese, Korean and Chinese all look different, strikingly so for that matter, if you bother looking a bit closer. None of my dates or Asian girlfriends has ever looked like the one before or after, except for the usual ethnic features, and there was plenty of differences. I have never tried to find my own Sora Aoi-living doll or dated a string of women who all looked a bit like Gong-Li. Some of my dates were tall and thin, some were small and chubby, some were dark, others were light-skinned. Their hair varied from wavy to straight to short, long and so on. Some even had it dyed red, like the punk girl I once knew.
So despite superficial similarities, there’s plenty of room for variation-I mean there’s 2 billion of Asian out there. What I find disturbing about the ‘yellow-fever’ stereotype is the implicitly racist claim that all Asian women look the same. It’s striking how both a lot of sufferers and detractors of ‘yellow fever’ share this claim.
A similar point can be made in regard of ‘Asian culture’. There’s no such thing as ‘Asian culture’ but there’s plenty of cultures that originate in Asia. Some of my Asian friends describe themselves as being part of Thai, Chinese or Japanese culture, others don’t seem to care much for the culture of their families. I guess it’s the same with my Roman-Catholic background. I never go to church myself, but I happen to know plenty of Roman-Catholics who go there every week. It’s just that you can’t see my religious background when you look at me.
2) I have never given a dime for stereotyping along the lines that Asian women were servile, coy, shy, submissive and so on. This sort of thinking is simply nauseating, sorry. If my any of my former girlfriends or dates could have been described in this way, I wouldn’t have dated them in the first place. I like my partners to be independent, strong, intelligent, well-spoken, assertive, artistic and sensitive. Not unlike me really. Not unlike the rest of the human race for that matter.
So it’s perfectly possible to like Asian features in women without racial stereotyping, or without being a victim of sensationalised white oppressive media and so on.
3) To me, facial features are just the beginning of my amorous interest in someone. Hey, I’ve got to start somewhere, it’s just a few visual cues to get my interest going. I know there’s heaps of starting-points, like legs, hair-style, style of clothes and so in, but that beautiful sleek hair of yours, or those wonderful almond-shaped eyes are where I myself start most of the time. I know it’s trivial stuff. Beyond that, ethnic background is actually irrelevant, as I do care about personality, shared interests and so. By the time I’ve fallen for somebody, her ethnic background has become irrelevant. Believe it or not-past a certain point I tend to forget that the object of my affection is Asian. In my own country, with high-levels of assimilation and integration of Asian people this is perhaps easier to do than in other parts of the world.
I actually share some of the annoyance that Asian girls can feel towards males approaching them. Ever since I graduated in Philosophy I get heaps of people, usually middle-aged guys with emotional problems, who feel that this makes me really interesting. And no matter what I tell these people, I’ll always be a Philosopher, so I’m officially pronounced ‘Weird’. Is it therefore wrong to talk to me just because I once got a degree in an obscure subject? Of course not. But the thing to keep in mind is that there’s more to me than 7 years of reading Hegel and the lot. I have few intellectual ambitions and if it were up to me, I would rarely discuss philosophical topics in conversation. Not for lack of interest, but there’s so much more in life that I find interesting, and most of it has othing to do whatsoever with a 15-year old college degree.
So I won’t objectivy you as long as you won’t objectify me, but let’s agree that we can’t just enjoy each other’s wonderful personalities and share our deepest experiences out of the blue.
4) Still it sucks liking women with Asian features, even in a fairly liberal country like mine. My white friends never seem to get over it, my Asian friends find my preference both puzzling as somewhat suspicious-am I really stealing ‘their’ women? And there’s always somebody to point the finger at you: ‘you’re just a covert racist.’ Try to refute the claim you’re a covert racist. No matter how hard you try, you’re going to lose.
My own question to these people is just: is it really so hard to imagine people from different ethnic/cultural backgrounds getting together and liking each other? Is it really the first time in history that people from different ethnic backgrounds were fascinated by the differences and went on to exchange some of the differences in the DNA of their offspring? Come on, let’s face it, it isn’t. Racial attraction of whatever kind might even be more prevalent than you know, it’s just that it’s a personal thing, and often hard to explain or rationalise anyway. You like someone because you do.
‘Yellow fever’ or not, in the end it’s about people liking each other. Any reason to like another person is most likely to be a good reason, as long as the other person responds to you with similar feelings. It’s a big big world out there, and all this ‘yellow fever’ talk makes it look small and provincial. I don’t care for your motives, or little hang-ups and what not as long as you are sincerely interested in me, and I’m interested in you too. Maybe we can work something out, maybe we can’t. In the latter case: there’s plenty of other interesting people out there.
I do feel awkward about my preferences and interests because I know where the traps are-they do exist, those people who’ll marry a sweet Thai thing just because ‘she’s cute and keeps her mouth shut’ . But is it really all that different from any other preference or liking?
What I find most disgusting is how many white men on here value Asian womens’ “respect” and that it was a “breath of fresh air” from the mobs of fat disgusting American “cows”
And as an American young woman of European descent, I’m supposed to not be offended by those statements? I am not fat and disgusting, I “enjoy being a woman” but I’m not about to let a man walk all over me
Maybe THAT’S why so many white women seem “jealous” of Asian women–they’re constantly bombarded by this trash not only on online web pages but on the streets and at their jobs.
I don’t care about interracial relationships–I am in one myself, so I would be hypocritical to criticize them–but I will say that I do notice a disparity–that usually it is Caucasian males with Asian females–I am in college and work part time in the service industry so I see thousands of faces everyday, and I OFTEN see these pairs.Today i worked eight hours and saw about 6 asian woman and white man couples and no others (no white man, hispanic women, black woman and white man, whatever). What creeps me out though is that often it’s an old guy with a foreign-born Asian woman or a youngish white dude who’s a total PRICK and treats me like dirt. I then wonder…what white guys are going for Asian girls and for what reason? And then there are some that are normal. I just can’t help but wonder why I rarely see white guys with hispanic women–honestly that’s one combination I hardly ever see.
And by the way, I understand how some people may feel about the treatment they get being an interracial couple–sometimes in the past I’ve gone with my fiance to restaurants that serve food from his country and the waitresses there treat me really rudely or in one case, completely ignore me and ask to my boyfriend (in their language) what I’ll be having to eat. Which irked me so much I decided to leave. So if you’re complaining about the “looks” that white women have given you and your Asian wife, try walking in my shoes.
So anyways, I guess it’s an interesting question, like any question, but then again the comments on here are HIGHLY offensive, primarily to Asian and white women. So I’m done.
In fact 99% of those Asian girls that go out with western men are not considered pretty or attractive at home, or she must be a hooker or have mental problem. Just check out those interracial couples out there and you’ll prove it.
I have observed most Normal Asian women prefer their own type and not interest in white men. Naive western men who watched/read too much hollywood movies and dating website articles, or actually had dated some Asian hookers or ugly Asian chicks are likely to deny this above fact.
Yap!, such of those white women that go out with blacks or other
So you found the reasons that white men who date Asian women offensive? Then maybe can you explain why there are so many Asian women who proudly proclaim that “I only date white men. I don’t date Asian men” (which also means that you self-loathing Asian females won’t date Black, Latino, Middle-Eastern etc. men because they are not good enough for you. You Asian sluts have no self-respect when chasing the white man. They can use you and abuse you and you sell-out whores will go back for more. FYI, 75% of interracial dates are Asian women with white men. You’d think it’s true love? It’s more like white fever and yellow fever.
Yap @Bill right In the same case with white women slut,have no more self-respect when chasing the black man, and in the situation white women+black man= stupidity from these white women , because they;r feel atractt from inferiority, conclusion =stupidity…but when is about asian women and white man then situation is other, asian women are clever bcz choice sombody superior
m in calgary – so I decided to google this question specifically about short men who date Asian woman after a discussion with my girlfriend about the last love of my life, G. We were talking about him and how he is now dating, yet another Asian woman even though he has said many, many terrible things about them and the Asian race in general. I want to say that I don’t personally believe any of the nasty things he said about Asian women because I know him and how dark he is but I find this weird and fascinating. He truly talked with such disgust and contempt that I can’t believe he is dating another one. He put down their upbringing, personalities, superfiscialness and drive for money, status and showmanship via snaring/trapping a white guy. He absolutely liked the skinny body because he likes all skinny bodies, all races. He did not care for the flat chest and flat face (so he said) however he felt like he had a big dick when he was with an Asian woman because a white woman absolutely knew the difference between 4 inches and 7 while the Asian woman didn’t. I think this is the real reason we see this pairing. Often the man is either a very unattractive white guy or he is a very small, short white guy. I have always thought that my ex has a classic case of Short Man Syndrom which is entirely based on insecurity. A constant comparrison to other men. He actually told me that being a small, short man he always felt less than the other guys who had good sized penises. As sad as it all sounds I think it is probably the case for a lot of small/short guys as most of the mixed couples I know are very short white men with Asian woman which still equals tiny/short children but with white influence. I think this pairing is less about true connection, trust and love for a lot of these guys and really about control. That said he told me that the last three imported woman he was with all ended their relationship when they realized he didn’t intend on buying them the things he said he would, nor couldn’t he be pressured into it. BLOW UP! To me a healthy relationship has nothing to do with anything other then respect, love, devotion, forgiveness and support – colour, status, education, sex and race have nothing to do with love. One of the things he said was common with Asian women is that they are happy to swallow (not that they are any better in bed than other woman) but he believed they were happy to swallow cum as a result of all the Sushi they ate in their culture whereas white woman don’t eat a lot of Sushi (I know, I laughed too). He also really liked that they were not his equal and could not never be his equal because they were of lower class and therefore he felt he could have things his way – yet they all left him. He also talked about how he was the one who always had a leg up in the relationship and they couldn’t compete with him whereas being with someone that was his true equal always made him feel very insecure. He told me that I was the first woman that he had ever been with that was his true equal and he was never comfortable with that. He recently told me that his new Asian girlfriend was half the woman I was in every way possible but that he was happier than ever because he could dump her at any time without any real chance of him getting hurt. It seems very sick to me and as I said, dark. I find all these opinions on this site to be interesting and meaningful but honestly I don’t think he was lying to me about his thoughts and beliefs but I am still in shock and sad for that poor, divorced Asian woman that he met Online. While she was at her personal lowest he came into her life and will surely cause her tremendous pain that she will not see coming. If she is like some of the other Asian ladies on this site, she may believe he really likes or lusts her for her exotic beauty but that is truly not it. She has no idea of how he really thinks about her. It’s truly disgraceful and hopefully not all Asian woman are blinded by the fact that there are a lot of (50 year old) white men like G out there preying on them. It’s not all about love or lust. That said, I do believe in real honest true respectful love and I do hope we all find that regardless of who we find it with. For the record, I am a small, attractive, cute, fit, sexy, curvy, loving, generous, successful woman who also fell for this guy so it can happen to anyone. Ladies if you have starts in your eyes, please be careful and mindful. Guys sorry if this offends you but it isn’t intented for the good guys – the other guys know who you are.
Can you Americans learn to speak like normal people? Do you like reflecting on people like that? The only assumptions I got from your post was ‘I’m bitter bitter, I’m bitter, that bastard left me, he is not better then me, that bastard, I hate Asian women’.
Very mature of you M!
Really? What I got from that was that a man racist against asian women like myself was nevertheless quite willing to exploit and abuse them due to their cultural inhibitions–seeing them as below him even while he dated and fucked them.
It amazes me how many white men think that, because white women are trying to move up from their formerly ‘inferior’ position as housewife and meek submissive who allows her SO to boss her around, they have become overly masculinized and undateable. So now some of the more sexist ones are “escaping” Western Feminism in order to fuck and date the so-called untainted, yet still ‘inferior’, Asian woman. Please, stick to your own race. Miscegenation is terrible for everyone.
I must say I have really enjoyed reading the posts. I started dating Asian women about 15 years ago. I find other women attractive but more often than not it’s an Asian woman that takes my breath away. I have heard the terms “Asian fetish” and “yellow fever” and it puts me off but, I must admit I have been bitten. Like many who posted, I admire the straight black hair, almond eyes, small/ slender frames and the soft skin. They do tend be more feminine and I have had wonderful relationships, though it is not a panacea every time and I have found some cultural difference troublesome. On the other hand differences have been exciting and interest.
I eventually married a Chinese woman and she is very devoted to family life and has been a wonderful partner.
People prefer certain types of people for different reasons. It’s what they find to be attractive and so there is no clear one-way direction to take when answering this question. All anyone can do to justify their answer is throw in stereotypes or, more favorably, their own experiences. But that’s their experience not anyone else’s so don’t take it as fact because it’s not. What they went through does not necessarily mean it will be the same for everyone else.
And, while I’m at it, I am an Asian woman. This whole ‘I want an obedient, respectful wife’ is so old. I am respectful as much as the next person, but just like a majority of people, I prefer not to look like someone that will roll over and surrender every time there’s a fight. If you’re clearly disrespecting me, then you better as hell believe I’m giving you what you gave me or worse. It’s neutral — You treat me the way I treat you. I, however, don’t like to hold grudges. Fights are mostly misconceptions and they blow over within a few minutes or hours.
But that’s just me. That doesn’t mean every Asian woman on earth now is the most hostile beings on the planet. Loads of people, not just women, not just Asian women, react the same way.
My mother is one of the most amazing examples of racism on this planet, Huge racist, holier-than-thou Asian woman who fights with just about anyone AND holds that grudge until you apologize to her because she’s ALWAYS innocent. Prime EXAMPLE of how not all Asian woman fit into your mold of ‘sweet, kind and respectful’. If I never meet another woman like her again, I will consider myself blessed. : |
Also, if being ‘feminine’ means being submissive, then yes, I do choose to be masculine. I’m not here to make you feel macho or that you’re the alpha-male. Is that an ‘American-Women Only perspective’? Obviously not because I share it! If you find that American woman (or, in this case, you’re trying to say White Women, right?) is deemed too masculine because she’s fighting for women’s rights, then you’re off your case. She’s just sticking up for what she believes in and if it’s equality, then so be it (and not the wishy-washy equality where they demand the same rights as men and turn around going ‘I deserve so-and-so more because I’m a woman!.I’m talking ‘I want to enlist in the Army/Marines/Navy/Airforce and I will accept nothing less than the exact treatment I would get if I were a man).
All in all, I’m just saying stereotypes exist, but just like any other stereotype, you shouldn’t believe in them. It’s difficult to shake them off, but it’s for the best. No one person fits into any mold. Everyone is their own — We all act, behave and think differently. To say all of this kind of person is just like so and so is ignorant at best.
So maybe you had a bad experience with a person of a different race, sex, etc. — That doesn’t mean everyone else is like that. If you meet someone nice who you’re attracted to, then it shouldn’t matter what they look like.
For me I’m married to an Asian woman. She is smart, petite and both submissive but fully independent. My experience with asian women with her and before (I’ve dated lots of asian women and non asian women) is that asian women once you get them in bed, they do anything and that makes me want to do anything for them too.
That’s the diiference between white women and asian women. And Asian men would do the same for white women but it is not enough. White women want physical attraction, muscularity, strong and protective which asian men lack of. Bad luck asian men !!!
I’m a Chinese-America women, mid-20’s, working on my M.A. in sociology. We have to put this whole discussion into the larger context of whiteness, white privilege and generally what it means to be white in the U.S. We of Asian ancestry are now becoming white, just as Jews, eastern and southern Europeans and in fact the Irish who were at one time not white, over time “became” white. But here’s the thing, physically, most of us don’t look white, which impedes our path to whiteness. As a schoolgirl I shed so many tears because I longed to be and look white. I was adopt by white parents and I just wanted to look like my older sister. In my own way I was just as beautiful as her, yet she got all the male attention in our predominately white environment.
Most modern-day couples are relatively equivalent with respect to attractiveness (by conventional standards), wealth, education, values, etc. I have noticed something a bit unusual – very attractive Asian women with mediocre to unattractive white men. Here’s where the whiteness stuff comes in. My theory is that the highly attractive Asian women are often unable to attractive a white male who is just as attractive, so if whiteness is very important to her, she must date a lesser attractive white man. In other words, the Asian woman is not yet white enough to have equal standing with say, the stereotypical slim blue-eyed blond white woman. I have traveled extensively throughout China, Japan and southeast Asia and have not observed that beautiful Asian women are inclined to date and marry lesser attractive men. Remember this is just a theory which certainly does not explain every pairing, however I have discussed this notion with a number of colleagues, associates and friends – some Asian, some not Asian – and it seems to resonate. We are planning a research study. Also note that I have never seen a very attractive Asian women dating a lesser attractive black of Hispanic man…hmmm.
P.S. To all the men who worship Asian women because unlike causasian American women, they we are sweet, obedient, docile and submissive servants who cater to your every need, there’s a word for you, misogynist!
May we all learn to love ourselves just as we are.
I have dated a number of Asian women over the past 15 years. I have found them to be sweet and attentive lovers however, despite the notion or stereotype of them being obedient, docile and submissive. I would say that is not the case. I have found them to be very firm in their beliefs, unwilling to be submissive in many cases and combative when threatened. On appearance they do seem very feminine but, at home they can well hold their own and are very like other women. Of course I am not doing a study so and the women were chosen according to my taste, so it is going to be partial to my interests
I posted earlier that I find the term “Asian Fetish” offensive yet; I would have to admit that given a choice between dating a white woman vs. an Asian woman; I have always found the Asian woman more attractive. I have trouble understanding it myself. I think it relates to the way some men are attracted to blonds, or redheads.
Also, I think this may be the first time I have heard that more attractive Asian women dated less attractive white men. My view and that of people I have discussed it with find the opposite to be true.
I would agree it is rare to find an Asian woman dating Black or Hispanic, there seems to be a prejudice there.
Here’s an excellent youtube video on the historic and current stereotyping of Asian women, stereotyping which is degrading, limiting and confining.
While the procedural processes of data acquisition and analysis will be rigorous, we believe, based upon preliminary results and the results of similar studies, that the stereotypes degrade and devalue actual Asian women and further that Asian American women seek to recapture their validity and sense of agency by attaching themselves to white men. They attempt to absorb and imbibe as much whiteness as possible in order to exorcise the deeply rooted demons manifest in the world of ethnic stereotyping.
The impregnation, carrying and bearing of a white man’s child is the ultimate, albeit deranged and utterly ill-advised, attempt to keep the barbarians at the gate, the wolves at the door while seeking shelter from a never-ending assault against her womanhood, her personhood, her Asian identify and most importantly, her humanity.
Well, I don’t know about all that. Certainly most stereotype has some element of truth, if that is the type of information a person follows. I live in NYC and meet and work with people from all over the world. I have learned that you can tell very little about a book from it’s cover.
My wife is Chinese American we have mutually respectful and happy marriage; and a beautiful son who fills our life with joy. Our life is not a panacea, cultural difference can be troublesome but we are committed and working hard to find common ground.
Congratulation, you apparently have a wonderful family.
Nonetheless the desire for whiteness among Asian women remains problematic. Some years ago there was a firm which made tens of millions of dollars selling baby whitening solution to Asian women bearing the child of a white man. The solution purportedly would help ensure the child looks as white as possible. And no, these were not all first generation, uneducated women who bought the solution. Soon even Asian women who were having children with Asian men were buying the solution to obtain whatever amount of whiteness they could – double eyelids for example. Fortunately the solution was nothing more than watered down balsamic vinaigrette, tasty enough to be palatable and bitter enough to taste like something medicinal. This is of course an extreme example, but an example nonetheless of the never-ending quest for whiteness which has nothing less than a chokehold on many Asian women. BTW…the company is now defunct and the owners are serving lengthy prison sentences in Canada.
That is a disturbing tale.
Agreed and I am aware of the whiteness attraction / admiration. I believe that some Asians, and other groups, of darker tone feel less attractive than lighter skin colored people. It is difficult for me to relate to, I am white so I haven’t felt that perception.
Self value I believe helps to ”move the needle” if we could collectively teach color blindness to our children.
My wife is darker than some; personally I love that and find it beautiful. On the other hand I can’t think of anything less attractive than white supremacy’.
If you need to rely on the color of your skin, to measure your value as a person, I don’t you have much to offer. We all need to go deeper than that.
Awkward moment of anonymous internet sharing.
I think asian girl “fetish” has hit me. Very conflicted about it, and I’m trying understand what is causing it. I’ve observed the pattern in friends and cousins as well.
Here is my theory. We all come from homes with emotionally unavailable or abusive mothers. Early on, our brains became confused when trying to bond and connect with our mothers (and maybe sisters.) A therapist would call this an attachment disorder. This confusion then seems to color all interactions with women that have similar features – european in our case. It doesn’t have an effect until you start to interact with women as an adult, but I think it was always easier for me to make friends with girls of other races.
When an asian woman smiles at me, it enters the brain through a clear channel, it registers as a more honest emotion, and affects me in a deeper way. Because the eyes are strong conveyors of emotion, I think the effect of this is the strongest with east asian women.
Maybe that’s where the perception that asian women are more genuine comes from.
Because it goes hand in hand with attachment issues, it explains why nerdiness and self-esteem issues seem more common among these guys. It also explains why they perceive white women to be “crazy”, and why they would describe asian women to be better mothers.
These white men and asian women both have a conflicted relationship with white women. Another reason they are drawn to eachother.
This is not a “porn fetish”. It is emotional, but still somewhat objectifying. I don’t know if I should think it is inappropriate or not. I suspect the asian women counterparts have a corresponding version of all this.
i am a brit and a naturalized american. asian women are lovely. i have had several relationships with Thai ladies and they are quite nice. but i had problem adapting with the culture. …culture differences can make or unbreak a relationship…btw, you may have heard a lot about sex trades in thailand but ive been there a lot of time and its still a very traditional country and public display of attention in thai culture is a taboo. i found this and its a good example to what im saying!
I am a lady of 56. I am mostly white, but had a Black great grandmother. My. boyfriend is white and 48. Anyway, so many women who waste their time being hateful to other races are completely missing the point: even though there are. men who only like Asian ladies, ultimately most men simply want a sweet, feminine, and cheerful. woman who adores them. This does NOT meadv
My. keyboard was acting up! Anyway, this does NOT mean they want a slave. Nuff said!
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Oh God @ some of the posts. Asian women are petite and sweet, white women are cows, white men are pedophiles, asians date whites for light eyed babies (light eyes is recessive genius, I have rarely seen a light eyed hapa..). Messed up people stereotype to this degree and even more messed up people make life decisions based on that stereotype. Why cant asian women be curvy or gain weight? Last I checked that wasnt a genetic trait. Why should only colored hair and eyes be attractive? When looking for a life partner, physical attraction is important, but your chemistry with them is paramount.
Yeah as a non white male, asian female third party I find WM/AF couples dubious, at least on one side… but guess what if the couple is weirdos dating for status or some sick stereotypes… bless them and their limited intellects. There ARE people of all races who fall in love and just want to live their lives. Let them.
And asian women making these posts. If ur not dating ur man for colored eyed hapa kids, citizenship or some other crap and they arent dating u because they dont like anything expect anorexic shapeless bodies, or want “thin” wives… then why do u feel the need to defend yourselves again and again?! The loe you have with them should be enough. Let people hate… all IR couples get hate. Heck most people will hate on anything coz they have so much time to pass…
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Why argue on the subject and discriminate guys with this because how the hell do you know people’s reasons and who are you to judge what people prefer. I have “Yellow Fever” if you want to call it that and if you ask me my reason then i will reply that there’s really no reason, I’ve always found myself to be instinctively attracted to eastern-oriental women from a young age I would give it the same view as homosexuality its not my choice its just the way I am. Plus being all hard on white men for liking Asians is discrimination, plain and simple your subjecting people to a group and attacking them just because they are a certain way and inclined sexually different, it’s really no different than discriminating gays. I’ve liked Eastern-Oriental women from the age of 5 before i knew what sex or Asia even was(I actually thought Asia was part of Africa at that age and thought China and Japan was part of my own country, which is Scotland) I have never been a fan of most of the East Asian cultures because frankly, I find most of it weird and disgusting, although i enjoy learning about the history but I’m a huge fan of history as a subject in general and not certain parts of history. Also I do know that their is some huge sex pests who see Asian women as toys and inferior “prey” but thats just stupid and them men are either Anime obsessives or just some douchebag with a superiority issue in which i think is utterly stupid. Anyway I like what I like not out of choice but just out of the way I am white women do not arouse me in any way which is another thing they just don’t get me going, anyway rant over and i hope someone will give me an educated answer and not a badly written, uneducated, controversial one.
I’m currently dating a chinese girl and she is so far from the stereotype. She’s not the “love you long time” I’m just with you to get my visa stereotype, she holds two degrees and earns more money than me. But she values my intelligence and sense of humour and my drive to do better and trust me I can say based on the number of women who have wanted me that I have above average looks (im not desperate) I have had plenty of women from different races wanting to go out with me and most of the time I did, but with this girl something “clicked” which is why I’m with her. I also find it flattering that there are people out there using their own time and energy to work out why we are with eachother as though there must be a sinister motive like, she’s with me because of the big white cock, or she’s getting a visa (btw she’s an aussie citizen) or I couldn’t find anyone else.
I am in the same boat. Asian women are sexy, cute, beautiful, smart and they have more drive from my experience. My split has been 50/50 between white women and asian women and I would say all my relationships were amazing but the relationships with asian women were so much better in so many ways. In my mind there are to many white women who are to controlling and suck in bed period.
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I am a naturally dark and tan asian oriental woman and i am proud of my heritage,
i don’t care about lies and slurs about my race because some people are jealous or racist towards me. I think we as humans should be allowed to date anybody or any colour as long as the person is not a murderer . i don’t care if white girls slur me, i know they are jealous of me so the slanderous things they say about my race doesn’t make me flinch at all. it’s a very old fashion sort of judgement about asian women, we are more highly educated now in this century not back in 1900’s
To be frankly honest, I don’t understand any of this. I’m dating a white guy because we happened to meet in school and just developed feelings for each other. I find it hard to believe that some of you are speculating that I went for the status/physical attributes/money/etc.
No matter which way u look at it white guys have an asian fetish/yellow fever. Also asian women who date white guys are white washed or have an identity crisis. i could never date white people because they are fat age fast and more likely to cheat on u.
Wow that is pretty racist, you need a broader view of the world if you think you can understand that much about a person by who they choose to date and the color of their skin. The world is just not that simple.
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White guy here. Let me offer a different viewpoint. I have dated women of a wide range of races & ethnicities. Ultimately the superficial characteristic don’t really matter. I have dated a number of Asian women and honestly they kind of creep me out. At least by the 2nd or 3rd date the declare that they only date white men and how white men are so superior to Asian men, how they would never, ever date a black man and on and on. One even told me she was “pure” meaning that she had only had sex with white men, no Asian, no black. My point is that as a white man I don’t want to be stereotyped and objectified any more than a Asian women does. From my experience and that of friends, many of these women need professional help.
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I’m a white guy, and I used to be really into Asian girls for their physical appearance – nice eyes + face. But I’m no longer attracted to Asian girls because I’ve met to many that say things like ‘I can’t stand Asian men’ or ‘Asian men are gross’. Wtf..? I have Asian male friends so I take offense to people saying things like that. I always wanted to think that any relationship I did have with an Asian woman was only by chance ie being she liked my personality and I liked hers – none of the pathetic ‘well she was an Asian girl and I was a white guy so it was meant to be blah blah…’ Nothing sounds more stupid to me.
Ps. I just want to say also – not all Asian women say negative things about Asian men.
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I don’t understand why its acceptable when asian girls prefer only to date non-asian men, yet when non-asian men prefer to date only asian girls its seen as perverted, creepy etc… One article that springs to mind I read on a previous website that an asian american girl wrote, she tells readers how in her younger days she had confidence issues and in fact she used to actually use this asian preference in some men to her advantage and target these men in order to have relationships. She also tells how many of her non-asian ex boyfriends have raised concerns in her when she’s found search evidence on computers of asian porn. Aside from that how some ex’s have said suspicious things to her like how they really love asian girls, or don’t like girls of a non-asian ethnicity. Finally she goes on to say how she’s in a relationship now with a great non-asian guy who would never make her feel as sh*t as her ex’s did. One thing she fails to address while she’s pointing out “wrong” her ex’s are for preferring to date non-asians, is why she herself has never dated an asian man and clearly prefers to date non-asians. Hypocritical or what!
I’ll admit that yes I find asian girls more attractive than girls of other races including my own, that doesn’t mean i would never consider dating women of another race and in fact I have in the past. I’ll also state that I’m not a creep, a pervert or a racist either. We don’t call members of certain races “racists” if they prefer not to date outside their own race, so why should we call people racists for choosing to date outside of their own race? Its ridiculous!
I have an asian girlfriend, she was born in the Philippines and is of chinese descent. She is fully aware that I’m with her because I love her, I don’t see her as a sex doll or obedient little asian housewife, nor am I with her purely because she is asian. We both work, we both do our 50/50 share in the relationship, we understand and respect each others differences in every way and it works for us we’re happy with it.
I’m not one for believing everything I see, hear or read, but I’ve read that asian girls strive to be more free these days in their life choices and more specifically, who they choose to date. This is 2014, is it such a crime for free thinking people to make their own choices in life? Despite all the negative things people say about individuals who choose to date only asian females, its really rather ignorant and narrow minded to think its actually wrong to choose to do so.
I don’t understand why its acceptable when asian girls prefer only to date non-asian men, yet when non-asian men prefer to date only asian girls its seen as perverted, creepy etc… One article that springs to mind I read on a previous website that an asian american girl wrote, she tells readers how in her younger days she had confidence issues and in fact she used to actually use this asian preference in some men to her advantage and target these men in order to have relationships. She also tells how many of her non-asian ex boyfriends have raised concerns in her when she’s found search evidence on computers of asian porn. Aside from that how some ex’s have said suspicious things to her like how they really love asian girls, or don’t like girls of a non-asian ethnicity. Finally she goes on to say how she’s in a relationship now with a great non-asian guy who would never make her feel as sh*t as her ex’s did. One thing she fails to address while she’s pointing out how “wrong” her ex’s (and other men) are for preferring to date asians, is why she herself has never dated an asian man and clearly prefers to date non-asians. Hypocritical or what!
I’ll admit that yes I find asian girls more attractive than girls of other races including my own, that doesn’t mean i would never consider dating women of another race and in fact I have in the past. I’ll also state that I’m not a creep, a pervert or a racist either. We don’t call members of certain races “racists” if they prefer not to date outside their own race, so why should we call people racists for choosing to date outside of their own race? Its ridiculous!
I have an asian girlfriend, she was born in the Philippines and is of chinese descent. She is fully aware that I’m with her because I love her, I don’t see her as a sex doll or obedient little asian housewife, nor am I with her purely because she is asian. We both work, we both do our 50/50 share in the relationship, we understand and respect each others differences in every way and it works for us we’re happy with it.
I’m not one for believing everything I see, hear or read, but I’ve read that asian girls strive to be more free these days in their life choices and more specifically, who they choose to date. This is 2014, is it such a crime for free thinking people to make their own choices in life? Despite all the negative things people say about individuals who choose to date only asian females, its really rather ignorant and narrow minded to think its actually wrong to choose to do so.
I have a preference for Asian women, plain and simple. I think they’re more beautiful than most Caucasian women. Am I to be castigated for having a preference?
It’s *fine* if you have a preference for tall men, rich men, swarthy men, muscular men, etc etc etc, but shame on me for having my own preference?
Well, too bad. I like what I like and I won’t be shamed for it or told I have a “fetish” or made to feel bad about liking what I like. Period.
I am not asian guy or white guy, therefore as a 3rd party I will pitch in some of my own observations in this asian women/white men pairing drama. Though both sides love to claim that there love is 100% colour blind, the real truth many of the times is completely the opposite. First many asian women dating interracially have a major white male fetish that pushes them to avoid or ignore their fellow asian men, blacks, natives, Hispanics, Arabs and east-Indians. Asian women can follow their white male preference because I think they should do whatever that makes them happy in the end, but as long they don’t hypocritically lie that race doesn’t have anything to do with long list of partners that just happen to be made up of white men. I have also seen many white men list the reasons they like or prefer asian women and many pretty much sum up the typical stereotypes such as: being more feminine, submissive, docile, soft spoken, child-like, immature, petite, thin, hypersexual, anti-feminist, more traditional, subservient. Go to the many dating sites where white men try to find asian women, because you will easily find many there will bitch or whine about their dislike of white women plus feminism and asian women are their answer to their life problems. Notice also the only 2 options that many white men seems to give themselves is either white women or asian women, and that’s it.
And there is quite a lot of better-looking asian women paired with less attractive white men and not to mention deadbeat white men with more successful asian women(this happens to be more predominate with 2nd or 3rd generation asian girls).
Now ofcourse I don’t want to typecast all asian women and white men couples as being all the same, because I have no problem admitting that there are alot of colour blind pairings that are build on love and mutual attraction. But for the most part it can go 50/50 either way for many AFWM pairings out there, because even if some of these relationships are healthy but on the flip-side many are not.
Chand- good comments, and I agree with much of what you said.
“First many asian women dating interracially have a major white male fetish that pushes them to avoid or ignore their fellow asian men, blacks, natives, Hispanics, Arabs and east-Indians”
Yes, and so what? What’s the problem with that? I think a specific kind of attraction is often mischaracterized, as a “fetish”, but even if it’s not, so what? I mean really, what’s the problem?
“Asian women can follow their white male preference because I think they should do whatever that makes them happy in the end,”
And right there is where that sentence should stop. Who cares why they like what they like? Who is being harmed by someone exercising their preference for a particular race or “type”?
As for the whole “fetish” thing, to be frank, I don’t care if an attraction is a “fetish” or not.
Consenting adults should be able to date whomever they like for whatever reason they like. And feminists who object to someone (like me) having a preference (like I do) can just go cry in a closet, because I DO NOT CARE what other people think of my personal choice in partners.
I agree, I am a white male and for some time been attracted to Asian women. I appreciate other race women also , but in the end Asian women appeal to me more.
I find the term “Asian Fetish ” offensive , for my preference , as someone who prefers blonde hair or large thighs etc.
Attraction is the basic element for pair bonding. You like what you like , as someone who prefers salt or pepper as a seasoning.
Of course it doesn’t end there, the relationship continues if the attraction it support by an emotional bond, shared values and goals etc.
I appreciate the comments and the dialogue on this board.
“I appreciate other race women also , but in the end Asian women appeal to me more”
Same here. I find all sorts of women attractive across all races, sizes, shapes, etc etc….but Asian women appeal to me the most. It’s not something I ever gave any conscious thought to, it’s just what I’m personally attracted to. It’s no different than women who like tall men or swarthy men or “grunge” type guys. We like what we like, it’s just that simple.
I have NO illusions that Asian women are more docile, submissive, well-mannered, etc etc because none of those things are true. My attraction is almost entirely on a visual level just as most sexual attractions are for both men AND women.
“Attraction is the basic element for pair bonding.”
Exactly, and we don’t choose what we’re attracted to. We’re just attracted to (or repelled by) something and there’s almost never any conscious choice to it.
So for the feminists out there, here’s my advice: Stop trying to tell us what we ‘should’ feel attracted to or what we should think is attractive. Stop trying to make us feel ashamed of our preferences. It’s not going to happen, and you’re just making yourselves look awful by trying to dictate what we should like or how we should feel.
Well said ! I would also like to dismiss this notion of Asian women being more submissive . I have dated a number of Asian women and I can tell you that idea is total nonsense . In some incidence , say in public they may appear more quiet. This maybe some cultural influence for behavioral norms , but submission is not. As with anyone provoked or threaten the response varies from individual to individual , regardless of race.
John,
“I would also like to dismiss this notion of Asian women being more submissive”
Absolutely. Tell my wife how “submissive” she is and see how fast you get a boot up your butt. 🙂
My wife is not submissive, she’s cooperative- something that seems to be an alien concept to many American/Western women. She has a strong will and a mind of her own but she’s not obsessed with “winning” in the relationship or with being dominant. She just wants to get along and be partners.
“in public they may appear more quiet”
Sure, sometimes, but this is because they were raised in a culture where where you don’t talk unless you have something to say- you don’t just run your mouth day and night for no reason. And this applies to men as well as women in her culture.
Honestly, if American men ever find out about places like Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, and Thailand, American women would find getting married to be almost impossible.
I mean, what man wouldn’t want to marry a sweet, lovely, younger woman who isn’t a raging bitch (as so many American women are)?
I have noticed that Asian girls are way more sexually aggressive. That is to say that Asian girls always seem to make the first move. It’s weird, they seems so meek and passive in public, then as soon as we are alone they just pounce. It really took me by surprise at first.
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When I see a white attractive man with an Asian woman is think “SMALL PENIS ALERT”
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Well I’m going to join the conversation of a 4 year conversation. First of all I’m an Asian male and in 21. I’ve never dated an Asian women before. Who I have dated are a bunch of white chicks and latinas. All of them were in good shape and were really pretty. My first girlfriend was a highshhool varsity cheerleader her freshman year. But on to the point. My childhood I got scarred by Asian women and never could find them attractive. So many of them always looked at me in disgust as if I was a plague. Something that needed to get rid of. There was a time when I was under 12 I only thought Asian girls were pretty. But then around 14, this one girl the one that became the cheerleader. She actually came on to me. Came on to me as a friend and then eventually a lover. Don’t get me wrong, I wasn’t a dweeby kid. I made everyone laugh and was fun to be around. I played sports as well so I wasn’t scrawny. When I became this girls we will call her kat cause that’s close to her real name. Anyways when I became Kat’s boyfriend, so many Asian girls hated me and always questioned why would that blonde blue eyed girl go for him. Its disgusting. I never noticed it at first but at as I got older I saw it and felt disgusted with Asian girls. I just somehow fell out of attraction for them ever. Because kat, a white girl was the first person to really care and love me for who I am. after kat there were so many white girls and latinas that cared and love Me for who I am.. Thats what made me love white girls and latinas. I honestly to this day still Dont like Asian girls, I find a decent amount of them very attractive but I can’t get pass how much I’m a disgusting Vernon to them. I’m not unattractive and I’ve always been rated about a 7-8 on a 10 scale. But never by an Asian girl. It never really botheted me as much cause I like features of white and latina girls so much more. I would date an Asian girl for sure if I liked her and found her attractive. I’m in California now and honestly….. The cold air I get from Asian girls in los Angeles is so cruel and gross. I’ve never had anyone ever hate me so much for being born Asian than by Asian girls. I wish I was exaggerating but I’m not. For example I met this one asian girl at one job. Coworker. I talked to her once. I then ran into her at another job later in months. I realized it was her and I said hey! Wow what a coincidence huh?
She honestly Just looked at me said nothing, rolled her eyes and walked the other way.. I never felt such an insult… and the thing is when I interacted with asian girls this always happened. I made no signs I was coming on to them. I was just being friendly because sometimes it just happens we were together like group projects and what not. I had a group of Asian girls tell me to get lost at a Starbucks so they can all sit down at a table without my presence. The thing is I never met these people or wasn’t even tlsking to them. I was on my phone and they came up to me as if I was their servant. I honestly bursted right there and didn’t move for shit.
Anyways my point is… This whole white fetish things goes both ways. But for Asian girls its so fucking disgusting.. Most of them here in LA will date anyone that isn’t Asian even if the Asian guy Is good looking. They would rather date an unnattractivr overweight white man with a beard over an asian man who makes good money and actually looks good just because he is white. Now I’m not saying all asisn girls but from my experience in LA Its a good 95% of Asian girls I’ve met here. Like honestly this shit needs to stop. This whole white supremecy bullshit. This whole we exuse it as evolution bullshit. I’ve seen girls turn down a very masculine and financially well man down for a white male who wasn’t nearly as masculine, not as fincailly, and was a complete ass who just used her for sex. Which she was okay about being used as an object but then realized how much it hurt her. Yet she would do it all over again then date that asian guy.
I’m all up for having preferences but this isn’t even preferences. And I laugh so hard when Asian women hate it that they are only fetishes and nothing to be desired but for sex from most white men. They dug their own grave for that as a whole.
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Some Asian women do love white but no all I have been in a white Asian relation for a very long time most Asian women prefer Asian men.
Most of the terms yellow fever Asian fetishes were started by black men in the 60’s if a white man in Asia dated an Asian women that’s what they would say if a black man even tried to date one it was love.hate to say this but most Asian don’t like blacks same today as it was 56 years ago and it won’t never change
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